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BowTied Bumpkin's avatar

What really fucked me up about the last two years was realizing that so many of my friends, my Family, neighbors, the C level I worked for… they all just turned out to be people spending their lives to follow orders. Thoughtlessly. Just to fit in and get along. Very few people I really looked up to for courage or integrity pre-Covid remain as models or mentors. Still trying to process that .

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Mark's avatar

Explains much of human history.

I’m pleased that I’m in the 1/3 that doesn’t trust authority and doesn’t like being pushed around.....and has some ability to see through BS.

It comes with a price though. It’s not easy to see things that others don’t. And a lot of things in my life would have been easier if I had learned to ‘just give in’.

I’m sure that many here are the same......

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Pau Lon's avatar

Well said

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Mark Oshinskie's avatar

Many people took it b/c of mandates and the desire to keep their jobs. Two of my adult kids did so. The other did so b/c she was misinformed. I told all three of them that they should have stood up to their bosses b/c their bosses need them more than they needed their jobs. And if enough people did so--only 20%--the whole mandate process would have collapsed.

And now we all wait for the other shoe to drop.

https://markoshinskie8de.substack.com/p/memorial-service-for-a-friend

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MSB's avatar

I think many complied due to amount of propaganda they were subjected to; plus the pressures of job status, travel, access to normal venues, etc. They also wanted an end to all the negative media coverage, all the lockdowns or similar inconveniences. But let’s not forget that for decades, pharma has used this type of emotional persuasion to sell their toxic products; and they have also employed various dirty tricks to “punish” those who disagreed, whether medical folk or laypeople. But also for many, having bought that defective notion, they are unwilling to admit they were conned and hence their intransigence. BTW, let’s also not forge this whole idea of blaming the unvaxxed came from pharma. I’ve seen countless US medical dramas where an inevitable story line is how the single kid who was unvaxxed somehow penetrated the immunity of all the rest who were heavily vaxxed.

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Crash Pile's avatar

Many people took the injections because their employer required it to keep their job or so they could visit their parent in a senior living facility or to be admitted for treatment in a medical facility or, or, or....

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Daniel Kotzin's avatar

Yes, that is of course true. But if more of those people had protested, or tried for exemptions, or even merely complained, then the vaccine requirements would not have lasted as long or been as ubiquitous.

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carolyn kostopoulos's avatar

yes, but many more people wanted to be first in line and many were happy to condemn old friends who made a different choice. the saddest thing is knowing that people you loved and trusted would have been all too willing to load jews onto train cars back in the day. now that you know who they really are, can you ever forgive them?

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Mark Oshinskie's avatar

No. I can't. And besides, who wants to hang out with stupid and arrogant people?

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carolyn kostopoulos's avatar

but you didn't know that about them. you thought they were good and trusted friends, you relied on them, you were in sync in so many ways. you never thought of them as either stupid or arrogant. and you knew them well, warts and all- at least you thought you did. you never in a million years thought that they would one day betray who they were and human standards of decency.

so you are shocked and hurt and you feel the loss. i don't think it's so cut and dry. i kinda wish it was. these days i find i'm re-evaluating all my relationships, even if the vaccine or covid has never come up in our conversations, i wonder "what would they think of me if they knew?"

it's troubling

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Sasha's avatar

That was towards the end though. Soooo many people happily lined up for it without being required.

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Crash Pile's avatar

You’re so right. So many so misled for so long.

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Zelda Sydney's avatar

At THIS point, there are many solid explanations for why most went along. Dependent a wee bit on the individual, we can shake out several well-documented reasons for WHY they accepted unprecedented gov overreach and blind deference to medical authority.

Mattias Desmet's work (that built on the works of Le Bon, Arendt, and others) has been INVALUABLE.

What I find interesting to consider NOW (almost three years in) is what makes US different? What made/allowed/drove the refusers globally?

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Vinu Arumugham #MAHA's avatar

Do you study the design drawings of a Boeing 737 before you fly? People trust the engineers who built it. When Boeing corrupts the FAA, the planes crash spectacularly, killing hundreds. Vaccine injury is very easy to hide unlike plane crashes. So people continue to trust our CORRUPTED doctors.

Vaccine safety: Learning from the Boeing 737 MAX disasters

https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.2648251

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Jamison's avatar

In most cases, the people I know who had Covid (and thus, natural immunity), who then went on to get the jabs, did so on the advice of their doctors. Stunning!

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Mike Zimmer's avatar

Spot on Daniel Kotzin. Well said. Have posted and pinned on GETTR: https://gettr.com/post/p1ns3yob6ff

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Daniel Kotzin's avatar

Thank you.

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